At the microphone of Radio J, Sunday May 28, Elisabeth Borne targeted the National Rally (RN). The RN, heir to Pétain? “Yes, also, heir to Pétain, absolutely,” replied the Prime Minister, interviewed by journalist Frédéric Haziza. I do not believe at all in the normalization of the National Rally. I think you shouldn’t trivialize your ideas, your ideas are always the same. So now, the National Rally is putting the forms in it, but I continue to think that it is a dangerous ideology. »

What about Marine Le Pen? “I have never heard Marine Le Pen denounce what may have been the historical positions of her party and I think that a change of name does not change the ideas, the roots”, judged Elisabeth Borne about the change. party name in 2018, from National Front (FN) to National Rally.

Asked about the possibility of a victory for Jean-Marie Le Pen’s daughter in the 2027 presidential election, the head of government replied: “I fear that everything is possible. (…) By dint of trivialization, it is a real threat. “She evoked her memories of April 21, 2002, the day of the qualification of Jean-Marie Le Pen for the second round of the presidential election and the elimination of the socialist Lionel Jospin, of which she was then the adviser to Matignon.

Ms. Borne also judged that there was “obvious proximity” between the RN and Vladimir Putin. “If [Mme Le Pen] wants to rewrite history, we don’t have to fall for this trap. This closeness exists and does not fade,” she said. The former president of the RN defended herself this week of any “Russian tropism” before a parliamentary commission of inquiry.

La France insoumise “also plays into the hands of the far right”

When asked whether siding with Putin in France was more observed on the far left or its right-wing counterpart, the prime minister notably replied: “There are indeed minority voices at the two extremes, which are very ambiguous. , who no doubt do not dare to publicly display their positions but who do not take the condemnation that one can expect in the face of an aggression by Russia on Ukraine. »

Is it targeting Marine Le Pen and Jean-Luc Mélenchon? “Absolutely (…) I think there is the same ambiguity vis-à-vis Vladimir Putin, and the same complicity that continues to exist vis-à-vis him. Ms. Borne does not, however, put “no equal sign” between the RN and LFI, while this question agitates the presidential camp. “I say that the most dangerous, that the ideology that is fundamentally dangerous, is that of the extreme right. But I see that the behavior of LFI, which ultimately wants to destabilize our country, which attacks our institutions, also plays into the hands of the far right. »

If there are “many factors that explain the rise of violence” in French society, “Jean-Luc Mélenchon has his share of responsibility, when we see [him] screaming in front of the police ‘La République c’est moi ”, when we actually hear him wanting to break, bring down the “bad Republic”, make outrageous remarks constantly”, judged Ms. Borne, for whom the LFI deputies “do not play the game of democratic debate in the National Assembly “.

During this interview on Jewish community radio, the Prime Minister also spoke about her father, a Holocaust survivor, and her own journey. “I owe everything to the Republic and to my country. I was orphaned at 11, I was a ward of the nation. Then I joined the Ecole polytechnique, where I was able to continue my studies because I was also paid. And then I started my job in the state, she said. It is for me a promise of emancipation, the Republic. »